Interviews
Conversation with Paraguayan Guitarist Extraordinaire Berta Rojas
Renowned for her impeccable technique and innate musical mastery, Berta Rojas is one of the most outstanding female classical guitarists today. She has been praised as “guitarist extraordinaire” by the Washington Post and by Classical Guitar Magazine as an “ambassador of the classical guitar.”
Renowned for her impeccable technique and innate musical mastery, Berta Rojas is one of the most outstanding female classical guitarists today. She has been praised as “guitarist extraordinaire” by the Washington Post and by Classical Guitar Magazine as an “ambassador of the classical guitar.”
Recently, I had the pleasure of speaking with Berta Rojas about her music and her musical career. Here are Berta’s answers to my questions. Read on and enjoy!
DN: Let’s go back to your beginnings in music, your education, your early influences. How is it that you become a musician, and a classical guitarist?
BR: I got started by following the same path as my older siblings. One of them was a member of a band that was very well-known in Paraguay in the 80s. That’s how it came about that even from a young age, my two older siblings noticed that I had a certain talent for music as well and apparently, a very good ear, which motivated them to tell my parents that I should learn to play an instrument.
Although I had studied piano for 9 years in Paraguay at the same time I studied guitar, I chose to focus on guitar because I really identify with it. The built of the instrument, its sound, the connection I feel when I hold it in my hands, and what I feel I can communicate with it through music—those were the deciding factors when it came time to say: “This is the instrument I want to play.”
Let’s talk briefly about some of your most recent recordings. Surely every one of them has a story. Let’s begin with Cielo Abierto.
Cielo abierto was the first album recording that was produced on my own record label, ON Music Recordings, at a time when the physical distribution of music was giving way to digital distribution, with iTunes at the forefront. I was able to record this album in my own recording studio using portable equipment, which was small, comfortable and easy to use. Cielo abierto was the first product that came out and it was the first project for which I was completely responsible for managing. This entailed all the details of producing and recording an album.
This album helped me learn the mechanisms necessary to sell my music in the digital marketplace, by taking advantage of the tools offered by Amazon, CD Baby and, of course, iTunes.
The excellent reviews that Cielo Abierto received motivated me to continue producing my own music.
Let’s continue with the spectacular duo with Carlos Barbosa-Lima Alma y Corazón.
This album, recorded in 2007 as the second release on the ON Music Recordings label, offered me the chance to not only interpret music alongside a great proponent of classical guitar, as Carlos Barbosa-Lima certainly is, but also to travel extensively with him, including to a performance in Carnegie Hall in New York, where the quality of the audience was truly moving and welcoming. I learned so much from Carlos. One of my favorite memories was when we recorded Scherzo sobre la Sonrisa de un Niño by Juan Carlos Moreno Gonzalez. In the middle of the recording session, Carlos proposed lowering the piece’s key so that the guitar would sound better. So, we had to improvise and do it “right on the spot”… it was an amazing experience.
And now Intimate Barrios, your heartfelt tribute to the great Paraguayan composer Agustín Barrios.
Intimate Barrios was recorded through Dorian Recordings and was a product of all the energy and force that comes with entering the market using music that was charged with my own identity. To our great pleasure and satisfaction, Gramophone, one of the most important magazines in the classical music world, selected Intimate Barrios as one of the best Latin American recordings of the music of Agustin Barrios. This filled me with such pride because the two albums at the top of the list were recorded by the great guitarist John Williams. Receiving that honor was without a doubt a source of huge satisfaction for me.
You also did a magnificent DVD entitled Paraguay according to Agustin Barrios, in which you retrace the steps of the maestro.
Paraguay According to Barrios was directed by Marcelo Martinessi. It includes eight video clips which take the viewer on a tour of Paraguay, accompanied by the music of Agustin Barrios. I wanted this project to bring images of Paraguay to the public eye because the people of Paraguay are not well known in the broader world. And I think that we achieved this. Julia Florida is an example of one of the clips that pays homage to Paraguay and its people.
And now tell us about Terruño, a great collection of contemporary pieces by well-known composers.
This album was essentially inspired by Latin America, basing its foundation on the homelands of each of the composers represented on the album. I designed the album to continue my support for emerging composers that I played in Cielo Abierto. They also serve as a dose of fresh air in the repertoire. The reviews that Terruño received have motivated me greatly to continue to develop my career as a guitarist.
Next comes Dia y Medio (A Day and a Half), an exhilarating duet with Cuban saxophonist and clarinetist extraordinaire Paquito D’Rivera for which you received a Latin Grammy nomination.
Día y medio is without a doubt one of my most rewarding projects. Its nomination for a Latin Grammy in 2012 was a clear sign that independent musical production is capable of forging its own path in the music industry; and that the industry is looking for new sounds. There was an absence of Paraguayan sounds in the market and we are very happy to have supported the growth of this repertoire.
When I spoke to Paquito D’Rivera about doing a tour together, I had no idea the reach the collaboration would have: releasing a disc with him for instance. You can dream, but sometimes reality surpasses fiction. Paquito D’Rivera is not just a great musician; he is also quite a character with an extraordinary sense of humor—a lovable and admirable person in every sense.
The musical arrangements provided by maestros Pinchi Cardozo Ocampo and Edin Solís are true gems and brought us great pride. I have a lot of love for this project.
And then we arrive at your most recent release entitled Salsa Roja, another fantastic project that highlights the rhythms and sounds of Latin America.
In Salsa Roja, I present the works of a few composers that I had performed in the past, as is the case with Edin Solís and Quique Sinesi. Added to these is Julio César Oliva, whose works included on this album have moved me to new levels of feeling, emotion and a sense of melancholy interwoven in the beautiful melodic lines of his composition.
Also included on this album is a suite by my dear friend, the English composer Vincent Lindsey-Clark. I asked him to compose this suite specifically for me, using as his inspiration the music of the Americas. The title of the album was taken from the name of one of the movements of his suite, the Salsa Roja.
Please tell us about the Barrios World Wide Web Competition, the first online classical guitar competition that you created back in 2009.
The competition is open to youths from all over the world between the ages of 18 and 30. They register online and upload their videos to YouTube. This competition gives them the chance to compete for important prizes in a final round which takes place in Paraguay, the land of Agustin Barrios’ birth. It is a very democratic competition because any individual can participate by uploading their videos from the comfort of their homes. We have seen participants from so many countries, places that I didn’t even know had classical guitar schools, like Madagascar for example…
I read in your bio that you feel privileged to be the Ambassador of Tourism for your country…
Traveling as cyclically and frequently as I do, it’s truly an honor for me to use my music and to be a spokesperson for my country. With music, in interviews or in conferences and conversations with people, I feel like I am always able to tell others about my beautiful country, and the histories and liveliness it has to share. Paraguay is a well-kept secret of South America; and its music is a passport to international recognition.
Thank you Berta for taking the time to share with our readers your views about your own music.
Thanks to you for the opportunity of addressing your readers.
Berta Rojas and members of the Cateura Recycled Instruments Orchestra
About Berta Rojas
Renowned for her impeccable technique and innate musical mastery, Berta Rojas is one of the most outstanding female classical guitarists today. She has been praised as “guitarist extraordinaire” by the Washington Post and by Classical Guitar Magazine as an “ambassador of the classical guitar.”
Her acknowledged warmth and musicality have accorded her a place of preference among the audiences that have applauded her at such major stages as the Weill Recital Hall of Carnegie Hall and the Frederick P. Rose Hall of Jazz at Lincoln Center in New York, London’s South Bank Centre, Kennedy Center in Washington D.C., and the National Concert Hall in Dublin where she performed as a soloist of the Irish Radio and Television Orchestra, or Flagley Studio 4 in Brussels where she performed with the Brussels Philharmonic Orchestra for the Belgian National Television. She also had the honor of opening the Summit of the First Ladies of the Americas attended by then First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Most recently Berta has toured with Cuban saxophone player and 11-times Grammy winner Paquito D’Rivera with whom she recorded the album Día y medio -Day and a Half. This recording was nominated to the “Best Instrumental Album” category of the XIII edition of the Latin Grammys.
Berta maintains a prolific recording schedule. Her CD Intimate Barrios is one of the most celebrated recordings of the works of the great Paraguayan composer and guitarist, Agustin Barrios. It glows with the delicate insight and feminine touch this virtuoso performer brings to the music of Mangoré. With her albums, Cielo Abierto and Terruño she won great acclaim from critics, presenting a personal and renewed repertoire for the classical guitar. Furthermore, the album Alma y Corazón provided the opportunity for concert tours with Carlos Barbosa-Lima.
In addition to continually enriching her own artistic career through frequent international tours presenting concerts and giving master classes, Berta Rojas is firmly committed to furthering and disseminating the classical guitar. This has a particular focus on promoting the music of her country, Paraguay, as well as Latin American music, and includes her ongoing support to the careers of young upcoming artists.
Along those lines, in 2009, she created the first online classical guitar competition, the Barrios World Wide Web Competition. With two editions already held, it continues to generate tremendous interest throughout the guitar world. She was the artistic director of the three editions of the Ibero-American Guitar Festival held at the Smithsonian Museum in Washington D.C., and co-founded the young persons’ Beatty Music Scholarship Competition for Classical Guitar. The winners of this latter competition had the opportunity to perform at the John F. Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C.
Berta Rojas studied with Felipe Sosa, Violet de Mestral and Abel Carlevaro, among others. She earned her Bachelor of Music degree at the Escuela Universitaria de Musica in Uruguay where she was a student of Eduardo Fernandez. She later earned a Master of Music degree from the Peabody Institute under the guidance of Manuel Barrueco.
Rojas has been honored as a Fellow of the Americas by the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts for her artistic excellence. She is also privileged to be the Ambassador of Tourism for her country, Paraguay.
Interviews
SUBA Trio in Montréal: Omar Sosa & Seckou Keita With Gustavo Ovalles
On Saturday, May 6 and Sunday, May 7 2023, we have a rare opportunity to experience live in concert two giants of music: Cuban pianist and composer, Omar Sosa, and Senegalese kora player Seckou Keita. They will be joined by Venezuelan percussionist Gustavo Ovalles. These concerts, presented by Nuits d’Afrique Productions will take place at Le National in Montréal. Opening act will be Romain Malagnoux (France, Québec).
Omar Sosa has made a name for himself as a leading figure in modern jazz. He has won multiple Grammy awards and has been praised for his ability to combine traditional Latin rhythms with contemporary jazz. Seckou Keita is considered one of the greatest kora players in the world today. The kora is a traditional West African stringed instrument that is central to the griot musical tradition. Gustavo Ovalles is a master percussionist who plays the polyrhythmic sound of the African Diaspora.
Sosa and Keita first met in 2012, when they were both performing at a music festival in England. They hit it off immediately and decided to collaborate on an album together. The resulting album, Transparent Water, was released in 2017 and was met with critical acclaim. It featured Sosa on piano and various percussion instruments, while Keita played the kora and other West African instruments.

In a conversation with Sosa and Keita they expressed their excitement for having the opportunity to present their music in Montréal. It’s the first time they perform together in this multi-cultural city, well recognized for being an important focus of artistic creation in Canada.
Omar Sosa considers the recording of SUBA as a beautiful project, which was born during the time of Covid-19. “During the first lockdown I got a phone call from Seckou, and he suggested we should work on a new album. We had released our first recording, Transparent Water in 2017. I embraced the idea and we agreed to start working on creating the conditions to make this happen. We would work in our own homes and then make sure we could travel and meet up in Europe. From the very beginning we talked about following a philosophy that would involve space, silence and peace. All of a sudden, Covid had brought the world to a standstill, it created this strange atmosphere of peacefulness in the middle of the chaos, and we thought we should reflect this new reality in our project. SUBA -which means sunrise in Mandinka language- is for us a big statement, where another world is possible. SUBA for us is like a hymn to hope, to a new dawn of tolerance and change in a postpandemic world, it’s a reiteration of humanity’s eternal need for peace, hope and unity.”
Having watched in YouTube Omar Sosa, Seckou Keita and Gustavo Ovalles in a recorded concert in New York, and experiencing the magic created on stage by these musicians, I had to ask Omar about what we should expect during the concerts in Montréal, and this was his answer: “For us, a concert is a ceremony, it’s a moment of collective communion. We take every concert we give as if it was our first and last. We give it all, we project all the energy we have inside in our music, we don’t hold anything. And that creates a community with the audience, a spiritual connection.”
I also asked Sosa to expand on something he has said before: “The one thing that Africa can teach the world is the spirituality in every single thing.” This is what he had to say: “When people start getting close to Africa they realize there’s another way of connecting with your inner self. Why? because you give a more important role to your spiritual dimension as a human being. Unfortunately, many people in western society stopped having that connection with what we call The Supreme Force, or what others may call The Cosmic Energy, our ancestors, who perhaps are not even part of our genealogical tree, but they are with us. So, we need to start listening to our ancestors in order to reconnect with our inner voice, to get guidance and balance to continue our journey on this planet.”
Finally, I asked Omar to tell me about his work Gustavo Ovalles. He said: “I’ve been working with Gustavo for more than 20 years, and from the very beginning we had a strong connection. He’s an amazing musician. I met him in Paris, he came one day to rehearse with my band before a concert. I asked him to sit with my drummer and play together for a few minutes and that was it. I asked him to join us that evening and the chemistry during the concert was incredible. It was a beautiful show that day, and it continues to be like that after all these years.”

After talking to Omar Sosa, I had a chance to talk briefly with Seckou Keita, and asked him to talk about the energy, the connection, the magic that happens when him, Omar and Gustavo get in front of an audience during a live concert, and especially after the terrible experience lived during the pandemic, and he said that “it is something incredible and that energy is hard to describe sometimes, to express it with words. There are elements that we do share… Omar and I have recorded, have been travelling the world, performing on many stages for a number of years now, and also with Gustavo. When you play music that is for the soul, that music speaks for itself. And when musicians meet on the stage with open minds, and wanting to share their energies, everything flows easily, that’s usually what happens. And everywhere we go, and every different place where we play it’s a different energy, but always at about the same level or above, never under. It’s about the music we create together, the chemistry we have listening to each other that allows the music to peaks by itself, to shine. We are so much looking forward coming back to Montréal and play these two shows. It’s gonna be a high energy event. I have an amazing experience performing in Montréal, the first time in 2006 I came with my quartet. We played at the Jazz Festival and I was so touched about how the public engaged with my music, it was overwhelming. And I have to say that I will be back in Montréal next July, for the 37th edition of the Nuits d’Afrique International Festival. I will be performing at the Gesù on July 16 as a solo artist.”

One of the things that makes Sosa, Keita and Ovalles’s collaboration so special is the way in which they are able to blend different musical traditions together seamlessly. They are incredibly versatile and able to move between different genres and styles without missing a beat. Another thing that makes their collaboration so special is the way in which they showcase each other’s talents. Sosa’s piano playing is nothing short of breathtaking, and he is able to create a wide range of sounds and textures with his instrument. Keita, meanwhile, is a master of the kora and is able to coax a seemingly endless range of sounds and melodies out of his instrument. Ovalle is a master percussionist who comes from the Afro-Venezuelan, Latin and Caribbean tradition. Together, they form a musical symbiosis that is truly awe-inspiring.
SUBA is a fusion of different musical styles, but this time the album is more focused on Latin and African rhythms, another masterful collaboration between two masters. The recording is characterized by its energetic rhythms and high-energy performances.
Omar Sosa and Seckou Keita are two musicians who have created a sound that is both innovative and captivating. Their collaboration is a testament to the power of cross-cultural exchange, and it demonstrates the incredible creativity that can emerge when different artists and traditions come together.
YouTube Video – Omar Sosa & Seckou Keita: Allah Léno

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Berta Rojas – The Enigma of Arrival
I rarely conduct interviews using email and don’t really like doing them over the telephone either. In my view, the talking and listening – more listening than talking, as I prefer it to be – is best done in person, and preferably in a quiet space where I can savour (I use the gastronomic term, “savour”, because it suggests a rather visceral experience), in this case the sound of the words; the way they are intoned gives them a particular colour and texture. They are alive, these words spoken by the person with whom I speak. Alphabets strung together and which ring and resonate making a particular luxurious sound, echoing in this quiet space have more meaning; accented vowels and diphthongs that are formed by the curl of the lips, blushing purple and rushing to meet the wind between her and I sitting close together from music not only to my ears but seem to float their ghostly visages across my eyes. I get so ravenously hungry in situations like this that I devour each word, each phrase and sentence as if I were receiving Holy Communion itself. And so hot are these to the touch of my skin that they burn themselves in the memory.

Rarely, if at all, such incredible magic takes place over the telephone. And when it does happen, I am left breathless as I was when I spoke to the great musician and guitarist Berta Rojas in Paraguay twice over a month and a half. Although she was thousands of miles away, I ‘saw’ her lips part into a perfect, radiant smile. And when she spoke to me it was as if she ‘sang’ her lines; now bubbling as if cascading through laughter, now sombre as if muffled by the ache of a memory, twisting in the gut, now wistful and blurred as if spoken through the translucency of tears; and no matter what, always spoken as if grateful to be alive and present with me – in this case, no matter how separate we may have been, in a place, in space where it felt that if we reached out, we could touch each other and hold hands through shared pain and joy. Berta Rojas is a special person; she has as have I, come face to face with death and been blessed instead by the grace of God smiling as He sent her back from the dead to play music again, and again for a world scorched by fire and drenched by rain. He sent me back too. And I write now not only giving thanks for having my life given back to me (twice), but so that I could not only speak to Berta Rojas but live to write about it too.
Berta Rojas speaks in words adorned with syllables that are redolent of the aroma of frankincense burning quietly somewhere, floating towards the guitar strings that she is plucking with the tips of nails of long, slender fingers, urging them to conjure images of Paraguay, Argentina and Brasil. The music that ensues echoes in between my ears like notes cut in high-fidelity, into a vinyl which spins around and around occasionally accompanied by the strings of an enormous, well-drilled orchestra. The words playback again and again when I listen to Felicidade, a grand work of art made up of the music of Brasil. The song is “Berimbau” by the great Brasilian guitarist Baden-Powell, to whom Miss Rojas is paying homage here, with Toquinho and the wonderful Orquesta Sinfónica Nacional del Paraguay, conducted by Popi Spatocco. The song melts into “Se ela perguntar” by Dilermando Reis. Toquinho is alone with her this time; he is replaced by Orquesta Sinfónica Nacional del Paraguay on “Choro Tipico” and the bracing, lyrical, bittersweet sound-world of Heitor Villa-Lobos, which, in turns melts into Paulo Bellinati’s “Jongo”. I am speechless, and “Jongo” also fades into space – and into silence…

I break the velvet silence between us with what I believe must be mundane questions, such as “How are you?” and so on. But Miss Rojas always finds a meditative and introspective way to answer, capturing in her special way, BIG emotions on a small scale, with a poetic concentration that only an artist with her particularly powerful calibre can. Her answers are short, spoken intimately as if for me alone. Yet there is nothing hermetic about her approach at all. Gently, insistently, quietly, she draws me into her world – which is all melody and wonderfully chordal – and the effect is always thoroughly absorbing. I ask her if her gorgeous auburn hair has grown back again (after the virulent chemotherapy that she had recently been through) and first she laughs disarmingly, with a bright child-like giggle, then she sings a short line in praise of God and it is as if a whole Barcarolle has unfolded, its rhythms exploding like a box of rioting crayons, the echo of which beams its dynamic melody across the stratospheric miles that separate us: “By the grace of God…” (She breathes into the telephone). “He is a mighty God, and he is good,” she says.

The disc in my player runs out and I switch it back to the beginning. Felicidade begins to play, and Berta Rojas’ fingers make the song shimmy out of the speakers like a diaphanous gown unfurling. Song after song plays and I live each moment in the present, looking ahead and trying to fix my mind’s eye onto some distant point from where it appears safe to look back. Throughout, I feel as if I am in the presence of the finest of tour guides as Miss Rojas ushers me into secret spaces in of her choosing in a Brasil I am ever-grateful to discover. As Pliny once said, albeit in a different context, I feel that I am “choking with gold”. The history of Brasilian, in the spirit of the music, is gently unfolding as I follow Miss Rojas, walking past the long, long sleep of kings: Vinicius de Moraes, Antonio Carlos “Tom” Jobim, Ernesto Nazareth, Baden Powell de Aquino, Heitor Villa-Lobos, Dilermando Dos Santos Reis… Their great names echo with legends of valour and epic stories, their waking and sleeping marked by iconic songs emerging from effervescent pens overflowing notes to sing in songs that will last forever. Miss Rojas makes each song a magnificent votive offering as if in a cathedral, joined here by three great Brasilians: Gilberto Gil, Toquinho, Ivan Lins. “A distinct honour,” was how she described the experience.
Berta Rojas is on song. Her music is coming from the springtime of her being. Her guitar is a small orchestra. It is polyphonic. Every string is a different colour, a different voice. She is playing softly now; then a little louder as the strings of Orquesta Sinfónica Nacional del Paraguay begin to argue with her. She finds her voice and begins to illuminate the melody of “Homenaje a Baden Powell” a rare composition by her and her guitar opens like a great tome from Jorge-Luis Borges’ mythical library Tlön, Uqbar, or Orbis Tertius. Miss Rojas then proceeds to reveal the guitar’s huge vocabulary of sounds and effects – song after song – that combine to make it sound as big as an ensemble, but which have always needed her insight to deploy effectively. Her sounds range from harmonics and pizzicato to technique exotica, such as ‘nut-side’, ‘nail sizzle’ and ‘bi-tone tapping’ (plus) she suddenly unleashes a battery of percussion possibilities (on Paulo Bellinati’s “Jongo”, for instance) as if her guitar has come with a drum set attached.

I am astounded by her technique and find, when I ask her about it, that she practices incessantly. She used to practice a lot more before her troubles, I find out. But now she is much more relaxed and makes time for many other things in life, such as events dedicated to women, women musicians and women who have come through breast-cancer, and to children – especially those who are severely underprivileged: For instance, she was joined by La Orquesta de Instrumentos Reciclados de Cateura (literally the Recycled Instruments Orchestra of Cateura) played by children on instruments recycled from rubbish that they (the children) mine on the Cateura landfill on the outskirts of Asunción, haunted by these very children to eke out a meager existence. The song was Edin Solis’ “Tambito Josefino” and the album was Salsa Roja (ON Music, 2013) from which she began a Latin-American journey, albeit kick-started by an earlier encounter in Paraguay with Paquito D’Rivera, a recording entitled Día y Medio (ON Music, 2012). Those efforts resulted in a musical adventure in Argentina, Historia del Tango (ON Music, 2015) where Berta Rojas and Camerata Bariloche undertook to re-discover and re-imagine the work of Mariano Mores, Aníbal Troilo, Ástor Piazzolla, Virgilio Expósito, Julián Plaza and Anselmo Aieta. Here Miss Rojas was joined by Carlos Franzetti, whose magnificent arrangements animate the record like glimmering gems. It is also here where the guitarist came to work with Popi Spatocco, who conducted the Camerata Bariloche, and returned again later to (produce and) conduct the Orquesta Sinfónica Nacional del Paraguay, on Felicidade.

By then the die was cast. “I have a dream,” Berta Rojas tells me when we speak, “Of travelling throughout the length and breadth of South America to bring the great traditions to life from everywhere I go.” “What a wonderful idea!” I find myself saying to her. “And what a tiring journey that will be by the end of it all,” I add, thinking of how much of a strain it will be on her spry body as it recovers from the exhaustion of her two-year sorjourn to bring Felicidade to fruition from the day it took birth as she (Miss Rojas) began to feel the urge to glorify the unique (in all of South America and, indeed, the world) and extraordinary guitar music tradition of Brasil. The very thought of Berta Rojas making circling North and South America, and even branching out to Europe to promote Felicidade exhausts me. I ask her how she thinks she will feel doing all the legwork. “It is a labour of love,” she shoots back. “For me the enigma of arrival at my destination is so exciting, it fills me with energy,” she says. “No time to feel the melancholy of departure,” I tell her, as images of the pre-surrealist paintings of Giorgio de Chirico flash by. “Besides the feeling of being alive in the music is a beautiful way to begin each day,” she adds, as if icing a delicious marble cake before my eyes. “There is nothing more beautiful than to be sustained by music, from the word ‘hello’ to the word ‘goodbye’… what else is there in the world, after all, but ‘hello’ and ‘goodbye’” she says to me. I struggle to hold back the tears that suddenly fill my eyes; then run down my cheeks to my trembling lips. Are they tears of joy? Or sorrow? I cannot tell. But they taste bittersweet.
(I would be remiss if I did not thank Diane Blackman, Miss Rojas’ publicist, for putting up with me and my requests; and offer a cornucopia of gratitude to Berta Rojas for making time to speak with me)
Interviews
Quiet time with Joe Driscoll and Sekou Kouyate
As part of their 2015 North American tour, Joe Driscoll & Sekou Kouyate, backed by bassist John Railton and drummer James Breen, bring their electrifying collaboration to US and Canada.
February 5th: Le Ballatou in Montréal
February 8th: Lula Lounge in Toronto
Joe Driscoll and Sekou Kouyate have all the makings of a power duo. The surprising aspect about this relationship is that they come from such disparate backgrounds… or perhaps not. Depending on how you look at it. Many musicians have tried, especially—as these two musicians did—at live performances, but that did not always result in a recording where the electricity between the two men could be channeled in a more meaningful dialogue. Yet the guitarist and the kora player not only got together under the auspices of Jacob Edgar and the folks at Cumbancha, but also made superb music together. Musically the two musicians were on the same pages, in the same book. World Music Report managed to get to them, in a break during their tour of North America, thanks to the efforts of Seanan Denizot of Cumbancha Records. Here’s what they had to say:
World Music Report: What brought the two of you together? How did you react when you first heard each other’s music?
Joe Driscoll: We were brought together by a festival called Nuit Métis, in Miramas, South of France. The organisers had worked with both of us before, and they thought the two of us would complement each other well. As soon as we began jamming, we realised there was some real chemistry there, and that our styles really complemented each other. When I first heard Sekou jamming through those effects, my jaw just hit the floor. I’d never heard anything like it before.
Sekou Kouyate: Yes, we first met in France for a concert we were both playing at. We had no intention of playing together. I am always exploring the universe of music and I love beat boxing and really admired what Joe did when I first heard it. Our cultures are very different but we are from the same generation, and that’s very intriguing.
WMR: When did you come up with the idea of working together?
JD: It was all a very organic process. Sekou and I were paired up to jam at the festival, and I just left my dicta-phone on the table throughout our jam sessions. In listening back I realised we had some really exciting stuff going on. I realised that through these few weeks of jam sessions, we had enough material to go into the studio and start work on an album. By chance we both had a gap in our schedules, and we did exactly that. The rest followed from the album.
SK: We started jamming together in France, and we kept jamming. The vibrations we were making were very positive. It was kind of like “why not?” when we first decided to work together. It felt natural.
WMR: How do you think the collaboration turned out?
JD: We have both loved the results. We feel the styles really blended well together on the album (Joe Driscoll & Sekou Kouyate: Faya), and the response to the album has really been amazing. The live show continues to grow in demand for booking; the last two years of touring have been insane. Both in our own satisfaction with the album, and the response from the people- we feel it has turned out very well.
SK: I am really happy with the results. I think we took two very different cultures and blended them together in a natural way, which gave a new color to our sounds. I am very happy that we’ve brought our countries together through music.
WMR: What do you think should be the take away from this album? Is it just an experiment or something else?
JD: I don’t really know if it’s for us to say. Music stirs a different reaction from each listener, and we hope it has engaged people. As far as it being an experiment, I think it has reinforced the old adage that music has the power to unite people from all different cultures and places. I think it can help illustrate East and West can work in harmony, and we all have more in common than we sometimes think.
SK: Faya was our first attempt at opening borders and experimenting with our styles. It was a very strong start and I’m looking forward to growing on that.
WMR: Western music and African music are very different, melodically and harmonically. Also—and this is so obvious—rhythmically as well… Where do you think that the convergence of the music on this disc occurred and what is unique and different about it?

JD: I think really the differences between East and West musically can really create an amazing dynamic when they can play off of each other. Much like cooking, the interesting things come in when you are able to combine contrasting elements- like spicy and sweet. I feel this disc involves Sekou and me each playing our respective styles, but really listening to each other- and just trying to stay play off the other. I think what makes it unique is that neither of us has ever been held to genres, as we both listen to all different styles and genres, and to incorporate that into our compositions. I don’t think the album can really be put into any one genre, so I’d say that makes it fairly unique in even its classification.
SK: There’s a mix of jazz, blues and reggae in what Joe and I each do separately. I think that’s where we connected. His rap and the riffs of my kora blended together very easily.
WMR: Do you see yourselves working together again? Has another project become a germ of an idea already?
JD: Yes, we have been writing more songs while on the road together this last year or two, and plan on going back into the studio to begin a new album when this tour is over. As long as the music continues to inspire us, and the audience and booking agents keep showing an interest- we’ll keep following that inspiration.
SK: We’ve already started planning our next project and I’m excited to experiment further with new styles and taking this project further. We’ve got lots of surprises planned. I am personally always working on my own music as well and playing the kora for other bands. I love to open my horizons in all directions when it comes to music.
WMR: Thank you very much to both of you for taking the time to answer to our questions and connect with our readership.
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Viking Logarta
Apr 6, 2014 at 7:30 am
This piece is really useful. Berta will hold concerts in Manila and Cebu, the Philippines, on May 15 and May 17 respectively.
Danilo Navas
Jan 24, 2014 at 2:06 am
Dear Maria: Thank you for your comment. Your feedback is greatly appreciated. Just for clarification, the content under “About Berta Rojas” was taken exactly as it is on Berta Rojas’ website, under her biography. Saludos!
Maria Jose Rivas
Jan 23, 2014 at 10:51 pm
She indeed is a guitarist extraordinaire! (and an amazing human being)
But the article needs to be corrected. Berta Rojas is not “one of the most outstanding FEMALE classical guitarists today” (my caps), she is “one of the most outstanding classical guitarists today” (period!) She is amazing for any standard, not “just” “female” guitarists standards.